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Thursday, July 9, 2009

12 National Championships or Just 3?

Stolen from the Techsideline message boards, posted by a LSU Tiger fan here.

Kiker, you are not going to like this one bit ... not one. Is it the truth, probably, I'd say 90% accurate. It is the $EC, so you know bama lied at least some and likely a whole damn lot.

From BCO Pix2
12 National Championships? … The Real Story

I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.

To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.

‘TWELVE’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:

1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!

1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .

1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.

1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games.
Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.

1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.

1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.

You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously.

I'd like to thank TigerSport for giving me something for the deadzone. I am starting to pull out my blogging funk ... just in time for college football.

I will give em credit for 1 more winner ... below.
From BCO Pix2

From BCO Pix2
If Bama can claim 9 false and very MYTHICAL National Championships ... I am claiming one for VT. According to my memory and DVD the score in Nawlins at the National Championship Sugar Bowl on Jan 4th 2000 was VT 29 FSU 28.

Hell yes, we got 1 by Bamer standards.

Very cool Gobbler Country article about tit for tat, Bud Foster vs Paul Johnson ... here.

SouthernPigskin article should be posted very soon. Part 2 of my ultimate roadtrip, I will post link when it is up.

IPA's, Pork and Cornhole on Saturday at my place, results to be posted when I sober up next week.


Liam's Oasis said...

I KNEW IT!!!! I"VE BEEN SAYING IT SINCE 91!! ND has more National Titles than anyone....cheer, cheer for old Notre Dame!!!

Will said...

The Sweetwater IPA and it's chauffer are in town.

ebj said...

very nice. gonna be a fun day tomorrow. please keep it refrigerated.